Neighbors Speak Out Against Proposed Costco Gas Station
Costco reps say the Wheaton station would not harm the neighboring community.
Costco aims to include a gas station at its incoming store in Wheaton, and members of the community voiced their opposition to the project at a meeting Tuesday night, fearing the station would affect air quality and property values in the area.
About 80 people packed into the Kenmont Swim and Tennis Club to hear a presentation from Costco representatives and ask questions about their plans to build an eight-pump gas station on the site of the future store.
The Westfield site is not currently zoned for a gas station, and Costco is applying for a special exception from the county. The company will make its case at a hearing on Feb. 24.
Erich Brann, director of real estate development for Costco, said the proposed station would feature eight pumps, serving 16 cars at a time, and have space for up to 39 cars to queue. He estimated it would sell about 12 million gallons of gas per year, similar to the station at the Costco in Beltsville.
The station is planned for the southwest corner of the Westfield Wheaton parking lot, not far from many Kensington Heights homes.
Brann said the company will work to limit the effects of the station on the neighborhood, including constructing an eight-foot vegetated wall between the lot and the adjacent homes.
Brann also said that any storm-water runoff from the station would go through two on-site filters before being drained into the system.
But many of the residents in attendance said they were worried about the station's effects on air quality in the neighborhood.
Diane Cameron, who lives in the area and works as a conservationist with the Auduban Naturalist Society, said 39 idling cars would create a plume of carbon monoxide that would pollute the area and, after a rainstorm, create a runoff that could imperil groundwater.
Brann said Costco studied the air quality at its Sterling, Va., station — the busiest on the East Coast — and found that the pollution there was well below levels that could cause health issues.
David Sullivan, who conducted the environmental testing for Costco, said he used accepted EPA models in the studies and found that the station's air pollution concentrations would be 10 times lower than the EPA's standards for carbon monoxide emissions.
Many attendees, including Del. Al Carr, asked if Costco could locate the station elsewhere — either away from homes on another part of the Westfield site or across the street.
Brann said Costco looked at numerous options for the station, but that other portions of the Westfield parking lot are either unavailable or too steep to house a gas station. He also said Costco prefers not to locate stations across the street from stores because that can hamper the company's ability to respond to an emergency.
One attendee, Bruce Shulman of Kemp Mill, said he's in favor of the station and that, with the exception of people who live in Kensington Heights, he hasn't talked to a single person in Wheaton who doesn't want it.
Shulman's comments were met with jeers from the crowd, and most of the attendees who spoke said the station would degrade the area and discourage walking in what is otherwise a pedestrian-friendly neighborhood.
Donna Savage of the Kensington Heights Civic Association said Costco has failed to demonstrate that the station won't harm the community.
"You're asking us to trust you that nothing's going to hurt our kids, that our property values won't take a hit," she said. "You're asking us to take that risk just for your business. We don't accept that."
Larry Silverman, an environmental lawyer and member of KHCA, said the station's effect on quality of life in the area outweighs any possible economic benefit it might provide.
"You say it doesn't pose us any harm," Silverman said. "I say: prove it, because I don't think you can."
Tuesday's meeting was the second between Costco and its future neighbors, and Brann said the two sides will likely meet again before the February hearing.
Last month, representatives from Costco and Westfield detailed the $60 million project, which would also include a Dick's Sporting Goods and Elevation Burger. That meeting was mandated by the County Council, which has agreed to provide $4 million toward construction.
The store is planned to open in 2013.
Jerry
9:41 am on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
The argument that "you can't prove it won't harm us," is frivolous. Every attorney and anyone familiar with the rules of logic know that a negative such as that is practically impossible to prove. The real agument is that people who live nearby just don't like the idea of long queues of noisy automobiles within visual range and earshot of their homes. To make that annoyance more acceptable, I suggest that Costco offer those residents a permanent 40 percent discount on all of their gasoline purchases at its proposed station.
Danila Sheveiko
1:12 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Dear Jerry, there are numerous studies showing drastic increase in health risk from gas stations. Do you consider science to be frivolous?
Darin Bartram
10:13 am on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
The problem with granting a special exception for Costco gas at Wheaton is that it doesn't meet the legal standard for it. Costco must show a neighborhood need, defined by courts to be that “expedient, reasonably convenient and useful to the public." Well, Costco acknowledges that it will sell gas only to its members, not to the public. In addition, there are already 27 gas stations within a 7-minute drive, and these existing stations offer a full line-up of fuel, including mid-grade and ultralow sulfur diesel, which Costco does not offer. Costco cannot meet the legal standard here.
Charles L.Garris
11:52 am on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
If they do not plan to sell to the public, they should not get the special exemption. We have a sufficient number of gas stations in that local.
AntonFisher
1:17 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Bruce Shulman - I do NOT live in Kensington Heights and I do NOT want the station. Speak to me so you will not have to repeat your statement that such individuals do not exist.
Bruce Shulman
5:22 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
First, you do not say where you live. If it is in DC or not any of the nearby Maryland suburbs, then you really have no interest in commenting. Second, I did not say there are no individuals living outside Kensington who oppose the station. I said that everyone I have spoken to living in the nearby suburbs is in favor.
AntonFisher
7:01 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Bruce Shulman - I do live less than two miles from where the station will be. That being said, I believe that I qualify as a "person living in the nearby suburbs, but OPPOSE the gas station". Would this proximity allow me to have an opinion and be a concerned commentator? Now you cant say that everyone living in the near suburbs is in favor.
Bruce Shulman
5:05 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
These types of problems basically boil down to people having an emotional fear of something. That group opposes whatever project is proposed. Therefore, the proponents must submit studies and answer questions asked by the opponents. In the case of the gas station Costco has submitted extensive information negating claims concerning air, water and noise pollution and how it intends to mitigate possible effects from the gas station's presence. However, the opponents will never be satisfied with ANY explanation, no matter how clear, principally because they are responding to feelings - their emotions and fear. The positions taken at last evening's meeting amply demonstrate that both sides want what they want and are not about to draw back. Those opposed want everything to be "perfect" - i.e., no gas station at all adjacent to the new Costco. However, there is nothing perfect in this world.
I will appreciate DC Guy advising where he lives. If it is in DC he really should not participate. if he lives in any of the nearby Maryland suburbs, then he has an interest.
Finally, I do not know where the opponents are getting their statistics. I only count six gas stations located near Westfield Shopping Center - two on Viers Mill Road, one at Georgia Ave and University Blvd., one at Georgia Ave and Blueridge Ave. and two on University Blvd near the PEPCO substation. I will appreciate someone clarifying the claimed number of gas stations within the vicinity.
The Big Egg
5:21 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Mr. Shulman, the opponents are getting their statistics from the proponents--the number of gas stations comes from the October 2010 study prepared by Thomas Point Associates for Costco.
A big concern I have is that people behave irrationally when it comes to finding cheap gas. If I heard you correctly, you travel from Kemp Mill to the Costco in Beltsville to get gas, and I suggest that (without even getting to the "carbon footprint" of this behavior) you burn more in fuel getting there than you save versus buying locally. Costco gas will attract added traffic (including from Chevy Chase, Bethesda, and even DC) in a hunt for cheap gas. That added traffic counterbalances whatever expediency, convenience, or usefulness might be added by a 28th gas station in the area.
Bruce Shulman
5:58 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Sorry, but you read me wrong. I did not say I go to the Costco in Beltsville solely or exclusively to purchase gas. I go principally to shop for produce and other necessities. I know from one of my clients, which is a major food supplier, that they ship only their best produce to Costco. Additionally, Costco's prices for much or most of their produce are substantially cheaper than at places like Giant. Unfortunately, ever since Giant's founder, Mr. Cohen, passed away and it was sold to Royal Ahold, it has just not been the same at that store. Those food products I cannot find at Costco I shop for at Snider's, which is a terrific independently owned and operated store. So please do not advise me that my behavior is "irrational," and please do not tell me where to shop. I would not try to advise you with respect to these sorts of things.
Darin Bartram
9:47 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011
Mr. Shulman, I hope you understand why people responding to your dismissive assessment of their opposition as based on "fear" and "emotions" may themselves engage in value-laden language, such as calling behavior "irrational."
Bruce Shulman
10:25 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011
People are not properly interpreting my remarks.
1. I said that the opponents are acting "principally" out of emotions or fear.
2. I never said there was anything wrong with acting out of fear or emotions. We all have emotions. However, in the past, I have found that arguments based on emotions rarely prevail. If the opponents have hard evidence that well-managed gas stations definitely cause respiratory problems, cancer, etc.then I will become a convert. If, however, the argument is that there is a "risk" involved, then I am likely to maintain my current position, if for no other reason because everything in life entails risk.
3. in support of my belief that most of the opponents are taking an emotional position, upon entering the room, I saw people with posters opposing the gas station. To me that indicated they were not present to listen, had already made up their minds, and would likely not change no matter whatever information was presented. When I rose to speak, I was interrupted with jeers. When I asked the audience whether any in the room would change their position if an environmental impact statement supported Costco, a man rose and shouted "Hell no," to which most people hooted and applauded. After the meeting one of the opponents accused me of having "gall" attending. Later, on this website I am accused of being "irrational," and "dismissive." Do you call this reasoned discourse, or is it more properly categorized as "emotional?"
AntonFisher
11:27 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011
1. The proposed gas station will require zoning change
2. The proposed gas station is not consistent with the sector plan
3. The impact of the gas station on the surrounding environment will be worse that it is now. No matter what Bruce Shulman thinks, this gas station will have a negative impact regrdless of the severity.
4. There is absolutely no need for another gas station in the area
5. Residents in the area are all for smart growth and sustainable developments. That is why no one is opposing the Safeway, Sears, Costco, the new apartments near Bally’s, the New Down plans, the proposed apartment on Burbidge, etc.
6. No matter what Bruce Shulman says, he would not like to live near a gas station. And as a matter of fact not many people would.
So Bruce, correct me if I am wrong in my assumption as stated in point 6, would you like to live within 200ft of a mega gas station?
jenny
12:44 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
There is no reason to put a gas station there, save that Costco wants to. I am a resident of Wheaton (not Kensington Heights, thank you) and am against giving them a special exemption for a station. They already got $4 million of our tax dollars to help build their store. There are plenty of gas stations around. It's not irrational or emotional to oppose building another one there, especially in a location that close to people's homes.
Sheng
1:39 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011
As much as I like Costco, I don't think they should build any gas station near a residential area, let alone a mega one. The surrounding properties' value will drop if they put a gas station there, since no one will prefer to live near one. And saying there is no environmental impact due to idling cars and chemicals is like saying there is no correlation between exhaust gas and global warming.
"He also said Costco prefers not to locate stations across the street from stores because that can hamper the company's ability to respond to an emergency."
I doubt the argument is valid. Costco at Columbia has its gas station across street, albeit a small street.
SWN
12:21 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
The saddest part of all this is that the local civic groups and politicians who were so eager to get a Costco were naive enough to think that a multinational conglomerate such as Costco would ever stop pushing for their gas station, much less engage with the community. It's a simple matter of numbers. Costco has plenty of full time employees and consultants to throw at this and the opposition doesn't. Also, what are local Wheatonians going to do when our local gas stations, and their mechanics, go out of business? Even if one becomes a member, is Costco going to repair our vehicles?
If Mr. Shulman wants a Costco gas station so badly, then let's put it near his home and let him choke on the fumes. Let's see if he reacts principally out of fear or emotion. Let's see if he is still eager to exchange convenience for gridlock, pollution and plummeting home values. Unfortunately, we won't get that chance because the Costco is being built in Wheaton, not Kemp Mill. A densely populated area such a Wheaton is just as inappropriate an area in which to build a Costco as is Kemp Mill. Any protestations by Mr. Shulman to the contrary will be as hollow as Costco's assertion that placing their pumps elsewhere can hamper the company's ability to respond to an emergency.
SWN
12:40 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
If people are reacting out of "emotion" and "fear", that is due largely to the dearth of information that has been made available about this project. SIlverman and the County Council knew there wasn't enough information about this project before the last elections. They acknowledged this is in pre-election voters' forums I attended. Very few people even knew that the $4M was for Westfield, not Costco, much less than that it was solely to build a second story. The County kept it as quiet as possible.
Hans Reimer, who wound up supporting the $4M boondoggle, stated in a Kensington voter's forum that I attended, "The best thing to do with Wheaton Westfield is to bulldoze it." How were we to know that he would do such a dramatic about face? In this case, bad information is even worse than no information.
Where are the traffic studies? The only traffic study, released afte the fact, was prepared by Costco. A comprehensive traffic study for a proposed Fauquier County Costco estimated it would generate 17,000 to 22,000 daily individual vehicle trips daily! This is in addition to all the tractor trailers that will be arriving daily. Even if half that much traffic is generated, gridlock in downtown Wheaton will become permanent. If I wanted to live in Tysons Corner, I would moved there years ago.
SWN
12:40 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
I live about a mile from Westfield Shoppingtown and have spoken with dozens of people who, as the real story unfolds, have replaced their fear with anger. I can only hope that the silent majority coalesces into a viable political force before Wheaton is totally destroyed.
AntonFisher
5:06 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
SWN - Why do you suggest that Wheaton will be destroyed?
Eddie
8:28 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011
My compliments to Dan Shereiko of KHCA on the videotape of his 10/25 presentation. This is a mega gas station that should be placed in an industrial park, not next to a residential community. This gas station will bring lots of traffic and lots of noise (7 days a week) . Georgia Avenue and University Blvd are going to be a mess. As a secondary affect, this gas station will increase pollution and put local gas stations out of business (probably impacting those as far away as Kensington and Glenmont). Lastly, the gas station will significantly lower property values of local homeowners. My opinion.......the mega gas station is a big win for Costco and a big lose for the community.
Dave King
10:15 am on Thursday, November 3, 2011
The exact same gas station (not Costco) is now proposed immediately across the street from my home in North Carolina. I agree that the benefits/injuries of such a gas station are terribly unbalanced, with all of the benefits accruing to the corporate interests and all of the injuries accruing to nearby residents. Here, the oil company is offering to provide a landscaping shield in my front yard. Should I agree to that, and what, then, when existing health issues worsen and new ones emerge?