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Montgomery County Bag Tax Nets $154,000 in January

The bag tax could net up to $1.8 million in 2012, according to The Gazette.

 

Montgomery County’s hotly-contested bag tax netted $154,000 in its initial month, according to a report by The Gazette.

Approximately 3.8 million bags were taxed, but County Executive Isiah Leggett (D) told The Gazette the county needs more data to understand whether the tax is meeting its goals.

"We need more data beyond the first month, maybe a few months to a year," Leggett told The Gazette. "People are still getting adjusted to it."

According to the report, January’s bag tax revenue sets the county on pace to receive $1.8 million in 2012 if the first month’s numbers are maintained.

The bag tax was originally approved May 3, 2011, and the county expected to earn up to $1.5 million from the tax in the first year. This money will go to the Water Quality Protection Fund (WQPF), which covers stormwater management, watershed restoration and litter clean-up.

“The executive has said repeatedly that the county does not view the tax as a revenue stream for the Water Quality Protection Charge fund—where the money will go—but rather a program to curtail waste and encourage the use of reusable bags,” according to The Gazette.

The bag tax was proposed in March 2011 to encourage residents to use reusable bags and keep plastic bags from littering the environment, however a poll of Patch readers in October revealed 74 percent of Montgomery County residents do not view the bag tax as “eco-chic”.

For more information on the Montgomery County bag tax’s first month, read The Gazette’s full report.

Have you softened your stance on the bag tax or do you still strongly oppose it? Tell us in the comments!

Related Topics: County Executive Isiah Leggett and Montgomery County bag tax

Gem in MD

12:32 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012

Hey maybe the County should curtail some of that money back to teacher income where the County curtailed teacher raises for the past 3 years. The County is good at curtailing!

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Ed Murtagh

4:37 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012

This is a user fee, not a revenue tax so all of the funds minus admin go to the Water Quality Protection fund.

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Woodside Park Bob

7:40 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Ed Murtagh is wrong. Not all of this fee "minus admin" goes to the Water Quality Protection Fund. 20% off the top before any of the money is sent to the county is kept as profit by the stores that collect the tax. This poorly designed law turned bags into a profit center for retailers!

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Ed Murtagh

12:27 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

that is what I meant by admin fee.

macadoodle

1:35 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012

Fighting it every step of the way. And encouraging others to fight the behavior modification PROGs of the People's Republic of Montgomery County to do the same. Plan to buy a box of 5000 bags wholesale in another state for my personal use and as gifts for friends.
Pure and simple, this is a just a scam to hijack more money for the general fund and to induce more and more people to follow the dictates of our PROGgy groggy legislators and Council people in their eternal quest to create a generation of pliable sheeple ready to obey any fool thing they're told.
Coming "attractions": Reversal of the county property tax deduction on the horizon, gas tax increased so that we the people can be engineered to ride bicycles, crushing taxes on every item and service known to man.
What's next: a tax on the air we breathe?

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Nearby

10:46 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012

Please recycle or trash them properly. Who can stand the sight of plastic bags hanging from trees, floating down the street in rainstorms and ending up in the drains and thus the creeks and rivers, or slopping up on the banks of the river? Oh and by the way, people are already pretty well engineered to ride bicycles. Try it sometime. It's easy.

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jag

11:07 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012

The heck is the point of a society if it isn't "behavior modification"? You say that as if it's a bad thing. You hate that we as a society dissuade vandalism and speeding as well? 100s of billions (yes, think about that for a sec) of plastic bags are used every year, 10s of billions are littered. Its an unfathomable waste of resources to create, bury, clean up, etc. day after day and even then there's plenty of the toxic crap entering the food chain and ruining every street and waterway in the world. "Behavior modification" is common sense in this case.

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MocoLoco

8:38 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

jag & Nearby--what do you think about newspaper bags that hang in trees or float down the street and into the waters? WHY are those not subject to this fee/tax? It's clearly because the county wanted to buy the media's support of this law.

Old and Outraged

6:46 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

This is a regressive tax that hurts the poor and working class. The same goes for the proposed gas tax increase. We can't afford to drop into the Balducci's or Whole Foods Market across the street from our luxury condo and carry a pre-made dinner and a quart of milk home for dinner every day. We have to take out our cars (If we're lucky enough to own one!) load them up with weekly discounted specials at Giant, Safeway, etc. and cart them home to prepare ourselves! If you're elderly, disabled, or both, lugging groceries in your arms in one or two bags (who can afford to buy them on a fixed income?) is difficult if not impossible, especially on foot -- Which will be the case if the "Smart Growth" planners and advocates get their way and recreate the dearth of parking spot nightmare that is the bane of the District and NYC. If they want to live in a filthy crime ridden overcrowded expensive burb, Let 'em move to NY. But the irony is that most of these people who want to dictate our lifestyle live in sprawling McMansions in Potomac or live the single high life in small but pricey apartments in downtown Bethesda where they can AFFORD to patronize the restaurants, high end shops and entertainment venues!
Old and Outraged.

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Woodside Park Bob

7:35 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

I support recycling and have consistently recycled everything I can, but I oppose the bag tax. Both paper and plastic bags can be (and were) recycled, Paper bags even quickly bio-degrade. There was absolutely no reason to tax paper bags except to try to get people to not use any bags at all.

The tax is also a give-away to business. They get 20% of all the money collected just for collecting the tax. They ought to get no more than the miniscule percent they get to keep of the sales tax. Why are we giving away 20% of the tax money as profit to business rather than using it for the stated goal of improving water quality?

At this point, I think what really needs recycling is the County Council and County Executive, who brought us this ill-designed program.

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KatieSilverSpring

7:40 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

"User fee", "Revenue tax" call it whatever it is a tax and a plan to modify behavior. The county has no business in my behavior. This argument of "no longer seeing bags in the trees" is used so often I wonder who is issuing the talking points? and, what happened to biodegradable plastic bags? and, an individual business' plan to discourage non-disposable bags, that is, Whole Foods reimbusing the customer for having their own bags but NEVER penalizing them if they had none, like the county is now doing.

But at the core of this is my reminder - at election time, remember who voted for this and vote them all out! So far the only one I have seen who opposed it and continues to opppose it is/was Nancy Floreen. The rest of them can start packing their bags.

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jnrentz1

6:05 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Katie,

Should the Montgomery County Council have term limits?

Jeff Hawkins

7:56 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

I oppose littering......
I oppose the bag tax.......

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Richard Levy

8:45 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

The Bag Tax is just another irritant from Montgomery County who KNOWS we are all so stupid we need the Commissioners to tell us how to carry groceries , how to flush the toilet and when and where to drive and park.
It is just so annoying to purchase an item and pay to place it in a plastic bag.
I know that the money will go to nought-it will be placed in a " good" fund and then taken to pay for a Commissioner's car or some other non-useful expenditure.
I only wish there was an election tomorrow so I could vote them all out for being so outrageous and controlling but int eh meantime I try NOT to shop where stupidity reigns.

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Johnny Lucid

9:15 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

I think the littering laws should be strenously enforced.
I think the bag tax should be repealed. The penny per bag the retailers get to keep seems more like it's to pay them off to endure the complaints of customers inconvenienced by the bag tax.
I'm wondering when the administrative and enforcement costs will outstrip the proceeds from the bag tax. I'm confident that it will then become a permanent line item in the County operating budget. I hope County Exec Leggett will fill us in on that.

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Andrea Armstrong

11:33 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Amen to Woodside Park Bob's thoughtful and dead-on commentary!!!

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Anemic

11:37 am on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

I haven’t yet softened my stand against any so called “bag” tax and I don’t think I ever will! As I read the review of the revenues this tax has reaped I wonder if the same couldn’t be said if the tax were on our blood cells. You know, tax people’s blood cells! We’ve got so many, imagine what the first month’s revenues might be. Of course there will be an adjustment period for some that eventually will accept it, and some people may never be able to adjust to it, BUT just think of the revenue! If revenue were the only justification necessary for a tax then taxing blood cells is not only ingenious, the revenue will more than justify it! AND, it might encourage people to donate blood more often – less blood cells to tax!

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Joanne Williams

12:28 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

I have not softened my stand on the bag tax. Anybody with half a brain knows that this whole idea is just another "hide in the dark" method of squeezing more money out of the residents. DC was successful at getting it passed and MoCounty followed suit, and now PG is jumping on the wagon. I don't understand why the people of this country have become so lazy and have lost interest in standing up for what they believe in. We let this pass. Don't get surprised when they decided they need some more money to pay for all the salaries and useless spending thats inflating the budget -- next on the list will be making us pay .20 per hour for the air we breathe. And we'll all sit back and complain to ourselves instead of saying enough is enough and fight back!

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Jeff Hawkins

1:45 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

@Joanne
"I don't understand why the people of this country have become so lazy and have lost interest in standing up for what they believe in. We let this pass."

I agree with you Joanne...

Remember this in November and vote some of these folks out of office.........afterall........."we did let them in". Show'em the door......

Ed Murtagh

12:53 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Plastic bags and bottles are costing Montgomery County taxpayers millions of dollars each year (and costing PG and DC taxpayes a lot too since much of our trash is washed into their communities). If you want to have that type of life style, fine but don't ask me and the county taxpayers to subsidize your life style. Pay the fee and leave the taxpayers alone.

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John Jackson

1:58 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012

You are the one asking to subsidize a life style. If you want to carry bags to the shopping mall, go for it. Don't demand that I do the same. Paper bags are bio-degradeable. The tax on bags includes paper bags, something the DC law doesn't even demand. The tax on paper bags has nothing to do with saving rivers and the bay. It is social engineering pure and simple.

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Ed Murtagh

2:07 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012

Sorry John, your comments are both baffling and totally wrong. I have never promoted charging a fee for paper bags. My comments have focused on plastic bags and bottles. I had no role in writing the bag laws, but I assume you can thank your plastic bag manufacturing friends for the inclusion of paper bags. Your statement about DC’s bag law is both irrelevant and incorrect. DC does charge a fee for paper bags (other than crryout food bags). See DC website:. http://green.dc.gov/service/skip-bag-save-river The rest of your comments are equally misinformed and will not waste any time commenting on them.

Fighting Back

12:57 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

If Montgomery County residents would just stop being so damn lazy and bring their own bags with them when they shop, we would not be throwing our money away like this. Let's not give the county satisfaction out of screwing us over. BRING YOUR OWN BAGS OR SHOP IN ANOTHER COUNTY!!!! When they are not receiving as much revenue, they will abolish it and move on to taxing some other frivilous thing.

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Jeff Hawkins

1:50 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

@Fighting Back
"When they are not receiving as much revenue, they will abolish it and move on to taxing some other frivilous thing."

O'Malley will institute a user fee, revenue enhancement, tariff, excise, levy on those bags that we bring in to the store.

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jag

2:29 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

"When they are not receiving as much revenue, they will abolish it"

Except the projections are (and the point of the fee is) for a decrease the number of plastic bags used, just like what has happened in DC.

Richard Rice

2:16 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Jeff,
I am in total agreement with you! Montgomery County and the State of Md.
are taxing this retired soul into the ground even though I do bring my own bag or bags with me for every purchase I make.

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jag

2:39 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Richard,

So how are you being taxed if you bring your own bags? Are you talking about other taxes? Maryland doesn't tax income from Social Security, doesn't apply sales tax to food, medicine etc. On top of the lack of taxes, the county has countless programs to offer free and reduce cost services to seniors. I certainly hope we all do enough to support you. If not, I'd love to hear what else can be done.

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Jeff Hawkins

3:17 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

@Richard

Yeah....it can be tough one. That's why so many of us native Marylanders have to leave when it's time to retire. I'm most likely going that route myself very soon. It's too bad really....
As for some of our more idealistic, partisan, naive and inexperienced :) fellow Marylanders, I would just say to them.....your day will come...

Marianne6

3:09 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

We live in Bethesda and now go to Northern Virginia to do a lot of our shopping. No bag tax = no worries! I have managed to pay the bag tax once and that was at a retail store. It amazes me that people walk in and out of department stores with clothes, shoes, etc. Who is watching people to make sure they are not shoplifting? Are the residents of Montgomery County going to made liable due to an uprise of thefts in the County? This ridiculous bag tax is going to lead to more significant issues in our future and not just litter in our streets.

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Jeff Hawkins

3:38 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

@Marianne6
The issue of increased shoplifting is real. I have spoke with people at two different grocery stores and they both said, it's now more of a problem than it was before. One store now has a guy just standing at the entrance to "eyeball" you as you leave. O'Malley will institute a "shoplifting tax" to help off-set this problem....

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Greg Cohen

3:18 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

To be totally honest, I find it interesting how many people now choose to go outside the county for their shopping. Even more interesting are those who readily admit it's to avoid the bag tax.

Realistically, how much more money are you spending on gas by going out of MoCo to shop than by staying in-county and paying 50 cents for 10 bags (if you even need that many)?

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Jeff Hawkins

3:45 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

@Greg
I believe for most folks it's the principle of the thing. Our country has a colorful history of fighting against tax's that are perceived to be unjust. This is another one.....

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Greg Cohen

3:48 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Not debating the principle of it, Jeff. Merely looking at it from a dollars standpoint. And from the North Potomac-Darnestown area, you're looking at a minimum 30 minute drive with no traffic to get outside of the county.

Personally, my time is worth more than 5 cents per bag.

Marianne6

3:22 pm on Tuesday, March 6, 2012

I don't know about you, Greg, but from our house in Bethesda to No. VA, it's only about 15 minutes. If we do shopping, dining, etc., we don't waste $ on gas, etc. VA also has 5% tax as opposed to MD with 6%, so on high ticket items we actually pay less. We go outside the County to prove a point, not because we can't afford paying for a bag here or there. It's a ridiculous tax and if we stood our ground and didn't pay the tax perhaps the County would abolish it.

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Momof8

11:15 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

It never fails that half the time I spontaneously end up going shopping and then also end up carrying way too many groceries, dropping half of them because the bag that I used 'last time' was left in the house after unpacking from a previous trip. I also expect that shop lifting will rise ... how is a retailer to know whether someone paid for something when they're walking around with items out of a bag. Alternatively, it's a whole lot easier for people to shop lift when walking into a store with an empty bag. Is any county authority collecting any data on that, with the associated financial implications? All said, like many others I too am shopping as much as possible now out of the county. This recycling of bags has little to do about helping the consumer, saving the environment ... it's all about more money into the county coffers!

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Billy Bob

12:10 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

I'm just visiting MoCo. When I was told about the bag tax as I was buying a some drinks, I said to myself "what idiots they are in Maryland." This kind of tax would not be accepted in my part of the country (southeastern NC). Why do you stand for it? Vote the idiots out.

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jag

12:21 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

If people didn't wrap plastic bottles in plastic and then stick them in plastic bags without giving it any thought then there wouldn't need to be a nickle tax to make you think twice and realize how stupid and unnecessary it is. The fact the rural south wouldn't "accept" the notion of intelligent usage says a lot, but probably not what you think it does.

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Ed Murtagh

12:35 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Billy Bob,
Since you are not from around here, a little background. Plastic litter is part of a multi-million dollar problem in Montgomery County. Example, cleaning out a storm drain that is in part clogged by plastic bags in very expensive. Before the bag fee, taxpayers picked up the tab. I these hard economic times, that is ludicrous. Now users of disposable bags pick up the tab. The result? A big drop in the use of plastic bags. I was at an electronic store not too long ago. Everyone in line had some sort of purchase that could easily be taken out. Instead of automatically putting the purchases in the bag, the cashier now asks do you want a bag. Do you know what happened at that store? Every customer said “no”, I don’t need a bag for the purchase. Perhaps in southeastern NC this is not an issue or that taxpayers simply pick up the tab without question. It is too soon to tell right now, but I assume there will be a significant decrease in the cost of addressing litter so everyone will come out on top.

Billy Bob

12:19 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

....and when I got back to my hotel, I was told that I could only receive two "free" glasses of beer because the county/state(?) would tax anything more than 2 drinks....something about increasing the value of the stay...therefore more taxes on the increased value....lol...are you kidding me?

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